Posted by on Jun 27, 2012 in Digital, Thrillbent | 14 Comments

Up now. If you think you understand the dynamic we’re establishing between Nocturnus and Galahad…fooled you.

Listen, if you’re reading this and you dig Thrillbent, do me a favor. Tweet about it. Facebook the link. Sound the horn. Spread the word. That’s how we’re gonna expand, through social media and through your help. In return, I’ll promise to do a MUCH better job post-San Diego Comicon about blogging and sharing what we’ve learned–that’s my solemn vow. We’re all in this together, I keep saying, which I kinda like. Teamwork.

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  1. Luis Escobar
    June 27, 2012

    You want people to share the comic? Don’t hide the social tags at the bottom of the page. Out of sight, out of mind.

    I was all ready to share the comic as soon as I finished reading it. By the time I got to the end, I was so into the comic it completely slipped my mind. I left the site without sharing the comic. I later remembered and came back but I had to look for the tags.

    SO, you might get more sharing if you put a reminder IN the comic at the end. That way people remember. And have the tags ABOVE the fold.

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    • Josh Henaman
      June 27, 2012

      This is a good point. You want that, “Call to Action!” reminder. Whether it’s the “Buy now!”, “Subscribe to the Feed” or a simple “Like Us on Facebook”, you don’t want to lose the momentum (and goodwill) of your readers.

      Instead of the “To be Continued” being the last screen, you can have just one more click that would take you to the call to action fields.

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  2. Aaron Poehler
    June 27, 2012

    In the comic itself seems a bit much–no one likes being nagged, especially repeatedly–but moving the social links up by the cbz/pdf download links seems like a good move.

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    • Luis Escobar
      June 27, 2012

      If it’s done with a wink and a smile, it won’t feel anything like nagging.

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      • Josh Henaman
        June 27, 2012

        I agree, I definitely wouldn’t want to see it on every page (or screen,) but on that last click of “To be continued” there should definitely be a CTA reminder. You’ll see a lot of sites, books, etc. hide it behind a, “Like what you see? Be sure to subscribe…” or “Stay in the know… “

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    • Steve Broome
      June 27, 2012

      People who are getting professional quality work for free without ads who also feel nagged for being asked to help promote it probably aren’t worth catering to.

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  3. Arnie
    June 28, 2012

    Hey thanks for the reminder Mark, i totally forgot to shat this. i’ve so caught up in the story you all have crafted, it slipped my mind that you are not making money from this, yet. So as far as sharing foes, i my experience people who like something will gladly share it when asked

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  4. Will
    June 28, 2012

    So, I recently had a brief twitter conversation with a couple of local professional artists that I found rather surprising.

    I’m a big fan Thrillbent and I check it religiously every Wednesday. Yesterday ( 6/27/12 ) Mr. Waid posted a fan art contest to promote the site going into SDCC. Now, I personally have the artistic ability of a developmentally disabled chimp but I thought it would be cool as hell to see some local pros throw in some support. I tweeted the link to some local guys encouraging them to “Support the Waid!”.

    The response was pretty universally: i’d rather i work on/ or have people support my own stuff because as far as digial comics go we are all competition right now, and that is good!

    The responses were all very friendly and polite and I am in no way disparaging anybody here, because I like all these guys. But I was surprised (and probably naive about how the industry works). I thought that as a shrinking industry going into the 21st century that we would all live or die together as a community and would want to support each other.

    I personally just want to see all the creators I like working with other creators I like.

    So that was a long set up to get to the discussion question…

    Digital comics sites like Thrillbent or Four Star. Competition or Community?

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    • Josh Henaman
      June 28, 2012

      Competition or Community?

      I’d say a little bit of both. You can’t fault ’em for being a little selfish or protective of their own skills, hell, everybody is. But you can shrug and say, “Think about the opportunity.”

      The opportunity to see one of your images hyped on Mark Waid’s headline-making digital endeavor… which recently made an appearance in the New York Times. Take it from me. I’m a nobody. And as a nobody, you can’t beat that kind of exposure. And I’m not trying to add anything to Mark’s contest, but I’m pretty sure there will be a line in there somewhere that says, “Hey, if you like so-and-so’s stuff, check out their webcomic at…”

      But yeah, there’s a little bit of healthy competition going around, but I’m of the mind that we can learn a little bit from each other. Granted, my digital skills are… less than ideal, but with sites like this (and I’ll check out Four Star now as well!) I’m getting an idea of what I need to do (or more specifically, who I need to hire.) Do I want to be better than Thrillbent? Absolutely. Do I want the next guy to be better than me? No, but he or she is welcome to try. And along the way we’ll help each other out. I don’t think all the bells and whistles are what’s going to set your stuff apart. It’ll be the content ultimately. It’s human nature to compete, it’s also in our nature to lend a hand, encourage and applaud.

      A couple of great things that prove the point? Check out DJ Coffman’s comments in the forum (and his Hero by Night site!) He has a couple of great tutorials. Anything by Reilly Brown and Scott Story are pretty good bets as well. Outside of Mark’s site? Check out the guys over at Comixtribe. They’re all about building a great comics community.

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    • Luis Escobar
      June 28, 2012

      Call me naive but I don’t see the competition. Does EVERY comic creator create comics for the EXACT same audience? Do the same people that read ARCHIE, read INSUFFERABLE?

      Possibly, but the truth is, they cater to a different market. For the most part, their audiences don’t overlap.

      Does the Penny Arcade crowd read INSUFFERABLE. Some might, but still, those comics cater to a different audience. So again, it’s not a 100% overlap.

      My point is, if you know your audience; if you do the market research and market your comic to a specific audience and another webcomic also caters to a different audience, then you are NOT in competition. If you think EVERYONE is your audience and that’s who you’re targeting, then you’ve already lost.

      If EVERYONE is catering to the Marvel and DC crowd, then you’ve lost. Marvel and DC has them. You might get a few, but for the most part, they like what they get from Marvel and DC and won’t go anywhere else. You’re basically fighting over the table leavings of the big two. And their audience is ALREADY tiny.

      If you don’t know who you’re market is, then you better start doing your homework.

      There’s plenty of audience out there that isn’t being catered too. The community should be helping each other out.

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    • sbroome
      June 28, 2012

      The difficult reality is that we all have to spend our free time doing promotion once all the creative stuff is done, and it gets to feel exhausting to try to promote other creators as well. And I get frustrated with the lack of reciprocation, but I can’t help promoting things I like and that will never change. There are other pros doing webcomics and digital stuff that I’m less supportive of, not because of the risks he’s taking or digital exploring, but specifically because Irredeemable and Incorruptible to me are the best superhero/villain books since Kingdom Come (Invincible notwithstanding).

      With how laughable mainstream comic media “journalism” is, the only time they do real writeups for the most part is on controversies or movie tie-ins. If we don’t use social networking to take up the mantle of promoting and discussing the actual comics I’m not sure how it’s going to get done.

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  5. Will
    June 28, 2012

    also, you can’t get me an i-phone app soon enough!

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